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		<title>By: Do independent or bi-partisan commissions solve gerrymandering? &#171; All About Voting</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/19/do-it-yourself-gerrymandering/#comment-289</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Do independent or bi-partisan commissions solve gerrymandering? &#171; All About Voting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] January 2, 2008 &#183; No Comments  An approach to solving gerrymandering of districts is to use an independent commission to draw the districts. This approach can work but often instead of creating an independent commission a bipartisan commission is created. The bipartisan commission still gerrymanders but it does so in a way that is agreeable to the two main parties. (If you need a reminder of how a bipartisan gerrymander works, play mission 3 of the redistricting game) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] January 2, 2008 &middot; No Comments  An approach to solving gerrymandering of districts is to use an independent commission to draw the districts. This approach can work but often instead of creating an independent commission a bipartisan commission is created. The bipartisan commission still gerrymanders but it does so in a way that is agreeable to the two main parties. (If you need a reminder of how a bipartisan gerrymander works, play mission 3 of the redistricting game) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Tuesday on the Redistricting Game &#171; All About Voting</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/19/do-it-yourself-gerrymandering/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why Tuesday on the Redistricting Game &#171; All About Voting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The folks at Why Tuesday have made a 5 minute video segment where they visit Chris Swain, director of the University of Southern California&#8217;s Electronic Arts Game Innovation Lab to discuss The Redistricting Game. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The folks at Why Tuesday have made a 5 minute video segment where they visit Chris Swain, director of the University of Southern California&#8217;s Electronic Arts Game Innovation Lab to discuss The Redistricting Game. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: some proposed reforms to the problems of gerrymandering &#171; All About Voting</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/19/do-it-yourself-gerrymandering/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[some proposed reforms to the problems of gerrymandering &#171; All About Voting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to All About&#160;Voting        &#8592; do-it-yourself&#160;gerrymandering A cynical but very funny&#160;quote. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to All About&nbsp;Voting        &larr; do-it-yourself&nbsp;gerrymandering A cynical but very funny&nbsp;quote. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AllAboutVoting</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/19/do-it-yourself-gerrymandering/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AllAboutVoting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael,

Although I am somewhat confident that you are joking I think that your comment does bring up part of the reality of gerrymandering.  There is an attitude amoungst both major political parties that they &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to play dirty because the other side plays dirty.

For a reform to be enacted it ideally has to not offer an immediate partisan advantage.

For example, the recent CA proposition regarding gerrymandering might have been a reasonable proposal, but one issue that I recall that it had was that it called for &lt;i&gt;immediate&lt;/i&gt; redistricting (rather than waiting for the once-per-decade redistricting that is the current CA practice) which was perceived as giving the Republicans an advantage.

[I reserve the right to be wrong about the recent CA gerrymandering prop; I have not done my research here but am instead relying on memory]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Although I am somewhat confident that you are joking I think that your comment does bring up part of the reality of gerrymandering.  There is an attitude amoungst both major political parties that they <i>have</i> to play dirty because the other side plays dirty.</p>
<p>For a reform to be enacted it ideally has to not offer an immediate partisan advantage.</p>
<p>For example, the recent CA proposition regarding gerrymandering might have been a reasonable proposal, but one issue that I recall that it had was that it called for <i>immediate</i> redistricting (rather than waiting for the once-per-decade redistricting that is the current CA practice) which was perceived as giving the Republicans an advantage.</p>
<p>[I reserve the right to be wrong about the recent CA gerrymandering prop; I have not done my research here but am instead relying on memory]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael T. Halligan</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/19/do-it-yourself-gerrymandering/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael T. Halligan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 06:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[N,

Rather than freeting about the negative implications of gerrymandering, why don&#039;t we sit down and figure out how we can use it to our advantage?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N,</p>
<p>Rather than freeting about the negative implications of gerrymandering, why don&#8217;t we sit down and figure out how we can use it to our advantage?</p>
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		<title>By: N</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/19/do-it-yourself-gerrymandering/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 05:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael, I think you missed the point.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I think you missed the point.</p>
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		<title>By: michael t. halligan</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/19/do-it-yourself-gerrymandering/#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[michael t. halligan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 08:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so what if i wanted to gerrymander for a specific niche, like get enough people into a voting area to get them to pressure government to vote yes on infrastructure subsidies.. could you hook me up?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what if i wanted to gerrymander for a specific niche, like get enough people into a voting area to get them to pressure government to vote yes on infrastructure subsidies.. could you hook me up?</p>
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