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		<title>By: VVSG Open Forum &#171; All About Voting</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/27/the-punchscan-voting-system/#comment-332</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VVSG Open Forum &#171; All About Voting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 2, 2008 &#183; No Comments  Rick Carback of punchscan has asked me to help publicize a project of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 2, 2008 &middot; No Comments  Rick Carback of punchscan has asked me to help publicize a project of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sacramento to tally votes centerally &#171; All About Voting</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/27/the-punchscan-voting-system/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sacramento to tally votes centerally &#171; All About Voting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] are in transit or storage arises. Most election integrity advocates (who are not pushing for end-to-end verifiable systems) advocate for counting the ballots at the precinct level so that chain-of-custody issues are less [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are in transit or storage arises. Most election integrity advocates (who are not pushing for end-to-end verifiable systems) advocate for counting the ballots at the precinct level so that chain-of-custody issues are less [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Thank You, Debrah Bowen! &#171; All About Voting</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/27/the-punchscan-voting-system/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thank You, Debrah Bowen! &#171; All About Voting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Carback&#8217;s (of punchscan) thoughts on the reports and the vendor [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Carback&#8217;s (of punchscan) thoughts on the reports and the vendor [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Aleks</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/27/the-punchscan-voting-system/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aleks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Point of order to the moderator, it was VoComp 2007 (i.e. this month)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point of order to the moderator, it was VoComp 2007 (i.e. this month)</p>
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		<title>By: Aleks</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/27/the-punchscan-voting-system/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aleks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man, if I had&#039;ve heard about Warrens review before, I could&#039;ve hassled him at VoComp :-) As the man who authored the flash presentation, let me say, a picture is worth a thousand words... something that CRV should ponder :-P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, if I had&#8217;ve heard about Warrens review before, I could&#8217;ve hassled him at VoComp :-) As the man who authored the flash presentation, let me say, a picture is worth a thousand words&#8230; something that CRV should ponder :-P</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/27/the-punchscan-voting-system/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[N and others -- The system supports ranking (this means instant runoff voting and all other variations), plurality (&quot;choose one&quot;), and m out of n (choose 3 of these 5). 

For an example, see the following:

http://punchscan.org/vocomp/view_results.php

I think that&#039;s pretty much all the different types of election rules you can run (Range voting can be run by making each candidate their own race, and the scores be the candidates). 

For some of them, the ballot might get a little hard to use/read, but it should be able to run any election type.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N and others &#8212; The system supports ranking (this means instant runoff voting and all other variations), plurality (&#8220;choose one&#8221;), and m out of n (choose 3 of these 5). </p>
<p>For an example, see the following:</p>
<p><a href="http://punchscan.org/vocomp/view_results.php" rel="nofollow">http://punchscan.org/vocomp/view_results.php</a></p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s pretty much all the different types of election rules you can run (Range voting can be run by making each candidate their own race, and the scores be the candidates). </p>
<p>For some of them, the ballot might get a little hard to use/read, but it should be able to run any election type.</p>
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		<title>By: AllAboutVoting</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/27/the-punchscan-voting-system/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AllAboutVoting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the abstract of the paper Rick linked to:

We propose and implement a modification of the Punchscan protocol that simplifies ballot printing and distribution.  ...each voiter creates a ballot at the polling location by combining independently selected ballot halves, rather than using two pre-selected halves with the same serial number.... This small but nontrivial change lets election officials print and distribute ballots using multiple printers more easily, without giving any one printer the ability to compromise voter privacy with certainty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the abstract of the paper Rick linked to:</p>
<p>We propose and implement a modification of the Punchscan protocol that simplifies ballot printing and distribution.  &#8230;each voiter creates a ballot at the polling location by combining independently selected ballot halves, rather than using two pre-selected halves with the same serial number&#8230;. This small but nontrivial change lets election officials print and distribute ballots using multiple printers more easily, without giving any one printer the ability to compromise voter privacy with certainty.</p>
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		<title>By: AllAboutVoting</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/27/the-punchscan-voting-system/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AllAboutVoting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[N, I am not sure that I follow your objection. Please clarify if I misinterpret it here.

I think that you are objecting that each election only allows for two candidates.  This is not an actual restriction of their system but rather a simpler case to demonstrate than the multi-candidate case.

They definately handle the multi candidate case and their photo gallery of images show multicandidate races.

For example, look at this image from their gallery:
  http://punchscan.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&amp;id=aaa]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N, I am not sure that I follow your objection. Please clarify if I misinterpret it here.</p>
<p>I think that you are objecting that each election only allows for two candidates.  This is not an actual restriction of their system but rather a simpler case to demonstrate than the multi-candidate case.</p>
<p>They definately handle the multi candidate case and their photo gallery of images show multicandidate races.</p>
<p>For example, look at this image from their gallery:<br />
  <a href="http://punchscan.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&#038;id=aaa" rel="nofollow">http://punchscan.org/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&#038;id=aaa</a></p>
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		<title>By: N</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/27/the-punchscan-voting-system/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not like how  a minimal amount of choices is already built into the system from the get go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not like how  a minimal amount of choices is already built into the system from the get go.</p>
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		<title>By: AllAboutVoting</title>
		<link>http://allaboutvoting.com/2007/07/27/the-punchscan-voting-system/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AllAboutVoting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some more links.

Punchscan has launched a blog:
  http://punchscan.org/blog/

Wikipedia on punchscan:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punchscan

Slashdot on punchscan:
 http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/24/1823211
 http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/05/2234252]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some more links.</p>
<p>Punchscan has launched a blog:<br />
  <a href="http://punchscan.org/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://punchscan.org/blog/</a></p>
<p>Wikipedia on punchscan:<br />
 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punchscan" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punchscan</a></p>
<p>Slashdot on punchscan:<br />
 <a href="http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/24/1823211" rel="nofollow">http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/24/1823211</a><br />
 <a href="http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/05/2234252" rel="nofollow">http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/05/2234252</a></p>
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